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		<title>Comment on Eucalyptus: a 2nd community business card design&#8230; whoa, that was fast. by [M]etabrain [E]ntry [L]og &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eucalyptus: a first community business card design</title>
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		<dc:creator>[M]etabrain [E]ntry [L]og &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eucalyptus: a first community business card design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 22 hours later: Jef and Dave sent in card and logo redesigns, and we now have a much-improved second version of the card, which you should use instead. Thanks, [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Eucalyptus: a first community business card design by [M]etabrain [E]ntry [L]og &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eucalyptus: a 2nd community business card design&#8230; whoa, that was fast.</title>
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		<dc:creator>[M]etabrain [E]ntry [L]og &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eucalyptus: a 2nd community business card design&#8230; whoa, that was fast.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to find that Jef van Schendel, a design student in the Netherlands who hacks on Fedora, had taken my first attempt at a business card design for Eucalyptus community members and made an svg mockup with color matching, more whitespace, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to find that Jef van Schendel, a design student in the Netherlands who hacks on Fedora, had taken my first attempt at a business card design for Eucalyptus community members and made an svg mockup with color matching, more whitespace, and [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The joy of befuddlement, and other random things by Yifan</title>
		<link>http://blog.melchua.com/2012/02/10/the-joy-of-befuddlement-and-other-random-things/comment-page-1/#comment-7940</link>
		<dc:creator>Yifan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;3 the quote. Also can you show me the result of the Tufte template when you have some? I&#039;m curious to see how good it is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;3 the quote. Also can you show me the result of the Tufte template when you have some? I&#039;m curious to see how good it is!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eucalyptus: a first community business card design by Greg DeKoenigsberg</title>
		<link>http://blog.melchua.com/2012/02/10/eucalyptus-a-first-community-business-card-design/comment-page-1/#comment-7939</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg DeKoenigsberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Mel.

Important to understand a few things about this, also:

1. It&#039;s a first cut.  It&#039;s a good first cut, but it&#039;s highly likely to change at some point, so don&#039;t print 1000 of them.  Print enough for your next show.  :)

2. Because we don&#039;t have our trademark policy yet, use of this design is restricted to those who have explicit permission to do so.  Which we will give quite liberally, but still, that permission is legally required to ensure that we maintain legal control over our trademarks.

So if you want that permission, find us on IRC (#eucalyptus, irc.freenode.net) or the mailing list (http://lists.eucalyptus.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community) and let us know of your intention to use these cards.  If you&#039;re even considering this, it&#039;s likely to be a very brief conversation that ends with us saying &quot;approved, go for it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Mel.</p>
<p>Important to understand a few things about this, also:</p>
<p>1. It&#8217;s a first cut.  It&#8217;s a good first cut, but it&#8217;s highly likely to change at some point, so don&#8217;t print 1000 of them.  Print enough for your next show.  :)</p>
<p>2. Because we don&#8217;t have our trademark policy yet, use of this design is restricted to those who have explicit permission to do so.  Which we will give quite liberally, but still, that permission is legally required to ensure that we maintain legal control over our trademarks.</p>
<p>So if you want that permission, find us on IRC (#eucalyptus, irc.freenode.net) or the mailing list (<a href="http://lists.eucalyptus.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community" rel="nofollow">http://lists.eucalyptus.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community</a>) and let us know of your intention to use these cards.  If you&#8217;re even considering this, it&#8217;s likely to be a very brief conversation that ends with us saying &#8220;approved, go for it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eucalyptus: a first community business card design by Jef van Schendel</title>
		<link>http://blog.melchua.com/2012/02/10/eucalyptus-a-first-community-business-card-design/comment-page-1/#comment-7938</link>
		<dc:creator>Jef van Schendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, forgot about two other points:

- Inkscape has four default business card templates. I picked ISO 7810 because I wasn&#039;t sure which one you used: none of the defaults had the same proportions as your example.

- I copied the logo from the LibreOffice file, because I couldn&#039;t find a vector version on the Eucalyptus website. The business cards will be small so pixelation won&#039;t be much of an issue, but vectors are always nice.

Jef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, forgot about two other points:</p>
<p>- Inkscape has four default business card templates. I picked ISO 7810 because I wasn&#8217;t sure which one you used: none of the defaults had the same proportions as your example.</p>
<p>- I copied the logo from the LibreOffice file, because I couldn&#8217;t find a vector version on the Eucalyptus website. The business cards will be small so pixelation won&#8217;t be much of an issue, but vectors are always nice.</p>
<p>Jef</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eucalyptus: a first community business card design by Jef van Schendel</title>
		<link>http://blog.melchua.com/2012/02/10/eucalyptus-a-first-community-business-card-design/comment-page-1/#comment-7937</link>
		<dc:creator>Jef van Schendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mel!

I definitely think you should do some quick colour matching, as you pointed out. Colour matching is one of the quickest, easiest yet most impressive ways to improve a design. The green used in the logo is especially nice, I think, it&#039;s very vibrant and distinctive.

Also, extra whitespace is always good. Especially around the edges, because business cards will get crumpled.

I like Gillius ADF, btw, I think that&#039;s a good choice.

Here&#039;s what I quickly mocked up in Inkscape (sorry that I didn&#039;t do it in LibreOffice!)...

http://schendje.fedorapeople.org/eucalyptus/business_card.png
http://schendje.fedorapeople.org/eucalyptus/business_card.svg (source)

For these I put the Eucalyptus logo on its side, because I felt that putting it horizontally causes it to take up too much space. Just an idea.

I hope the text isn&#039;t too small - I don&#039;t have much experience with designing business cards so it&#039;s hard for me to judge the size.

Hope this will be of use. Feel free to ignore. ;)

Jef

P.S. I love reading your blog, keep up the great work! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mel!</p>
<p>I definitely think you should do some quick colour matching, as you pointed out. Colour matching is one of the quickest, easiest yet most impressive ways to improve a design. The green used in the logo is especially nice, I think, it&#8217;s very vibrant and distinctive.</p>
<p>Also, extra whitespace is always good. Especially around the edges, because business cards will get crumpled.</p>
<p>I like Gillius ADF, btw, I think that&#8217;s a good choice.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I quickly mocked up in Inkscape (sorry that I didn&#8217;t do it in LibreOffice!)&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://schendje.fedorapeople.org/eucalyptus/business_card.png" rel="nofollow">http://schendje.fedorapeople.org/eucalyptus/business_card.png</a><br />
<a href="http://schendje.fedorapeople.org/eucalyptus/business_card.svg" rel="nofollow">http://schendje.fedorapeople.org/eucalyptus/business_card.svg</a> (source)</p>
<p>For these I put the Eucalyptus logo on its side, because I felt that putting it horizontally causes it to take up too much space. Just an idea.</p>
<p>I hope the text isn&#8217;t too small &#8211; I don&#8217;t have much experience with designing business cards so it&#8217;s hard for me to judge the size.</p>
<p>Hope this will be of use. Feel free to ignore. ;)</p>
<p>Jef</p>
<p>P.S. I love reading your blog, keep up the great work! :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Project Puppy: radically transparent engineering education research begins by [M]etabrain [E]ntry [L]og &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Project Puppy: getting data clearance</title>
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		<dc:creator>[M]etabrain [E]ntry [L]og &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Project Puppy: getting data clearance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] our adventures in radically transparent engineering education research continue, we find ourselves staring at IRB and going &#8220;well, all right, how is that going to [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fitting yourself a sit-to-stand desk by Tony</title>
		<link>http://blog.melchua.com/2011/07/09/fitting-yourself-a-sit-to-stand-desk/comment-page-1/#comment-7930</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read that sitting on an exercise ball increases compression on your lumbar spine? Your sit stand desk setup is awesome. Many thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read that sitting on an exercise ball increases compression on your lumbar spine? Your sit stand desk setup is awesome. Many thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does your FOSS project pass the Stanford Marshmallow Test? by Taryn Fox</title>
		<link>http://blog.melchua.com/2012/02/05/does-your-foss-project-pass-the-stanford-marshmallow-test/comment-page-1/#comment-7924</link>
		<dc:creator>Taryn Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about who has what sex organs, it&#039;s about who has a lot of trouble getting involved with these projects, because of a ton of factors that it&#039;s hard to see if you haven&#039;t been subject to them on account of being perceived as female.

Which doesn&#039;t require having any particular female sex organs. :P Transphobia and intersex erasure, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about who has what sex organs, it&#8217;s about who has a lot of trouble getting involved with these projects, because of a ton of factors that it&#8217;s hard to see if you haven&#8217;t been subject to them on account of being perceived as female.</p>
<p>Which doesn&#8217;t require having any particular female sex organs. :P Transphobia and intersex erasure, anyone?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Katie Rivard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is American tradition to gather on this day to appreciate the Superb Owl. To touch its down, to feast on the wings of the buffalo.&quot; -@chrisfurniss</description>
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