Tallstanding photos: as far as I can go alone

May 7, 2009 – 11:04 pm

I met Maya, Esther’s daughter and the teacher of this weekend’s workshop, yesterday.  This is a good prompt to write more notes for Nagle – or rather, using Nagle as an excuse to write more notes for myself. Taking a note from Nagle, here are photographs. As going shirtless is not as socially appropriate for me, these photos are a little less informative. It’ll come as no surprise that my default posture is… well, let’s insert your favorite negative adjective here, shall we?

postureposture-annotated

The right two pictures are same as the left two, with some annotations (line of hips, as indicated by the waistband of my jeans; vertical line drawn from my heels, tilt of head as inferred by the angle of my glasses (which weren’t repositioned on my nose between photographs, so this should be relatively accurate). On the left of each two-photo set is my usual slump. On the right is me attempting to tallstand (a technique from Esther’s book).

When I tallstand:

  1. I’m taller! (Not as much as the photo shows. The camera is also shifted a little.
  2. Weight shifts towards my heels; I feel more balanced, like there’s less muscular effort holding me upright. There still is muscular effort, though, and plenty of it. A lot of that muscular effort seems to come from my quads.
  3. My pelvis is a little more anteverted…
  4. …but I think I might be curving my lower back inwards and compressing it a little in order to antevert my pelvis. I’ve worked to minimize a lower back compression, and mostly gauge my progress by how tall I am, but I don’t know if this is as good as it can get, or if there are other adjustments I should make (and how to get somatic feedback on them).
  5. My sternum definitely feels more open, even if my shoulders only roll back that far (they’ve gotten better in the last 2 weeks, so you can imagine how they started out).
  6. My head tilts back more, but not enough. My neck won’t straighten more than that – the muscles are too tight. As best as I can identify them, the culprits are my sternocleidomastoids, levator scapulae, subclavius, maybe my scalenus anterior, and the traps and pecs in general (more pecs, I think). This note might be something to take to Abi. This is based on my observations that the stretch/tension when I tallstand (or roll my shoulders back in general) seems to lie below my clavicle, between my sternum and behind my ears (the back of the jaw), down the back sides of my neck radiating up into the base of my skull, and directly in front of my shoulder (the space between and directly below my glenohumeral and sternoclavicular joints).

So, more concretely, questions:

  1. Have I missed or misidentified any likely culprits on the long list of suspected tight muscles? What kind of self-care can I do to release them? (Definitely also an Abi question.)
  2. How do I get feedback/correction on not “crunching” my lower back while tallstanding?
  3. Since tight muscles mean there’s a pronounced forward cantilevering jut in my neck (that shouldn’t actually be there) for a little while longer, how can I best hold my head to help adjust it in the right direction as my muscles loosen? If I tried to make my chin level, it’d jut forward more; what’s a good compromise?
  4. I’ve been having a hard time monitoring my neck alignment in general, since you can’t see a mirror you’re facing sideways to. Aside from having other people take photos, what can I do? I’d love for this to be kinesthetic rather than visual feedback. Note also that my shoulders are still tight enough that raising my hand to my neck to feel it changes the way I carry my neck, so that may not work so well.
  5. Should my quads be activated while standing? If not, how can I release them without feeling like I’m going to topple over?

I’m starting to get to the limitations of how far I can learn about this for myself, which is great, because tomorrow is the start of the workshop, and my questions list is slowly falling into place.

  1. 4 Responses to “Tallstanding photos: as far as I can go alone”

  2. The questions I can help with are:

    #2: You definitely don’t want to be crunching your lower back when tipping your pelvis. This seems to be a common mistake — I think it happens from sticking your butt out via using the lower back rather than tilting the pelvis forward.

    The part you want to pay attention to in the book is the squat in step 11 of the tallstanding chapter. This squat is really key — you soften the knees, groin, and tip the pelvis all in one action. It’s a squat as if you were sitting on a pelvis. I often find it helpful to put one finger on my iliac crest (where the pelvis sticks out; you can feel the bone) and one on the center of the hip joint, and as you squat you can see the tilt of the pelvis (the angle increases.) You want to increase this angle while keeping your back the same as it was before tilting (you don’t want to be crunching the lower back in particular.)

    #4 — Two things you can do with your hand are:

    Feeling the back of the neck. You should feel a curve like feeling the outside of a cup (but with less curvature) — and nothing sticking out. Pull your head forward and see how your neck feels — this will given you an intuition for how the back feels when your head is properly back (i.e., the opposite of how it feels when forward!)

    For the tilt, I like to put one finger on the center of my ear and one on my nose and see that the nose is a bit lower than the ear (effectively finding this angle using my hand.)

    #5 — I am not sure here, but I’d assume no. My guess is your weights properly on your heels, these won’t engage, but you will need to bend forward at the hips to counterbalance (step 10 in tallstanding.)

    Good luck with the class and keep me posted!

    By Nagle on May 7, 2009

  3. “My guess is your weights properly on your heels, these won’t engage, but you will need to bend forward at the hips to counterbalance (step 10 in tallstanding.)” should be “_if_ your weight’s” …

    By Nagle on May 7, 2009

  4. I have a question about anteverted pelvis. Is this the same as slightly anterior tilting the pelvis. Gokhale’s book is on the way………..

    Thanks,
    Arthur Sissman

    By Arthur Sissman on Jul 3, 2009

  5. If you look at the photo in the blog post, anteversion is when the top of your pelvis goes forward and the bottom goes back, like “sticking your butt out” – so from the side like in that photo, it looks like the pelvis is rotating counterclockwise.

    Retroversion is like tucking your tail between your legs, and is just the opposite; when you curl up in the fetal position and your spine curls in, that’s retroversion.

    Hope this helps.

    By Mel on Jul 3, 2009

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